Humanz - predict chart position and UK/international sales

[Neal Zeal]

OK to have a separate thread on this? Apols if not...
For context:
Gorillaz peaked at no. 3 in the UK with 1 million UK sales and 7 million world wide
Demon Days - no. 1 in the UK, 1.8 million UK sales and 8 million worldwide
Plastic Beach - no. 2 in the UK, 500,000 UK sales, 1.3 million worldwide

For Humanz, I predict...
no. 3 in the UK, 200,000 UK sales, 0.5 million worldwide
(this is assuming it has no radio-friendly singles - if there is at least one, you can double these figures).

[Mark72]

I'm going for No. 3 UK and No. 5 USA.

[Veikko]

no. 3 in the UK, 200,000 UK sales, 0.5 million worldwide

That sounds about right, although I would predict a little higher worldwide sales (considering even The Magic Whip sold around 0.35 million without any remarkable singles).

[aldamasta]

I'm still hoping for #1 on both sides of the pond, but I've few guesses on sales. I don't pay enough attention to sales to make a good guess. Maybe 1 million worldwide? So I suppose my prediction will be my hope, #1 both countries.

[Rubi]

Wait, Damon's solo got to #2 whereas The Magic Whip got straight to #1, but Gorillaz which are much more popular won't get to #1? That makes no sense.

[Neal Zeal]

Wait, Damon's solo got to #2 whereas The Magic Whip got straight to #1, but Gorillaz which are much more popular won't get to #1? That makes no sense.

Depends what you mean by much more popular, Rubi?
In the UK, Demon Days sold more than any Blur album but the other Gorillaz albums didn't. Most Blur albums outsold Plastic Beach. There are about 12-15 Blur songs that pick up frequent airplay (over once a week) on UK radio - there are only 3 or 4 Gorillaz songs that do likewise. I've heard things are different in the US, but in the UK it would be hard to make the case that Gorillaz are a bigger act than Blur.

[idreamofpikas]

Wait, Damon's solo got to #2 whereas The Magic Whip got straight to #1, but Gorillaz which are much more popular won't get to #1? That makes no sense.

Depends what you mean by much more popular, Rubi?
In the UK, Demon Days sold more than any Blur album but the other Gorillaz albums didn't. Most Blur albums outsold Plastic Beach. There are about 12-15 Blur songs that pick up frequent airplay (over once a week) on UK radio - there are only 3 or 4 Gorillaz songs that do likewise. I've heard things are different in the US, but in the UK it would be hard to make the case that Gorillaz are a bigger act than Blur.

Demon Days 6 times Platinum
Park Life 4 times Platinum
Gorillaz and The Great Escape both went triple Platinum
Plastic Beach, Blur and 13 went Platinum
Think Tank, The Magic Whip, Leisure and MLiR all went Gold.

Feel Good Inc & Clint Eastwood both went Platinum
Country House, Tender, Song 2 all went Gold
Dare, Dirty Harry, 19-2000, Rock the House, Girls & Boys, Parklife, Beetlebum and The Universal all went Silver.

They are roughly equal in terms of sales in the UK, Blur may well have the edge but there is not too much difference. Worldwide is a different matter altogether though

Overall there is not too much difference in terms of sales in the UK

[Styopa]

Wait, Damon's solo got to #2 whereas The Magic Whip got straight to #1, but Gorillaz which are much more popular won't get to #1? That makes no sense.

Depends what you mean by much more popular, Rubi?
In the UK, Demon Days sold more than any Blur album but the other Gorillaz albums didn't. Most Blur albums outsold Plastic Beach. There are about 12-15 Blur songs that pick up frequent airplay (over once a week) on UK radio - there are only 3 or 4 Gorillaz songs that do likewise. I've heard things are different in the US, but in the UK it would be hard to make the case that Gorillaz are a bigger act than Blur.

Demon Days 6 times Platinum
Park Life 4 times Platinum
Gorillaz and The Great Escape both went triple Platinum
Plastic Beach, Blur and 13 went Platinum
Think Tank, The Magic Whip, Leisure and MLiR all went Gold.

Feel Good Inc & Clint Eastwood both went Platinum
Country House, Tender, Song 2 all went Gold
Dare, Dirty Harry, 19-2000, Rock the House, Girls & Boys, Parklife, Beetlebum and The Universal all went Silver.

They are roughly equal in terms of sales in the UK, Blur may well have the edge but there is not too much difference. Worldwide is a different matter altogether though

Overall there is not too much difference in terms of sales in the UK

This is interesting. But surely Girls & Boys, Parklife, Beetlebum and The Universal are far better known, and receive more airplay than any of Dirty Harry, 19-2000 and Rock The House. In the UK at least.

In fact whilst Feel Good Inc & Clint Eastwood are undeniable bona fide hits, Gorillaz have probably released only two other songs (Dare and Melancholy Hill) which are anything close to being as well known in the UK as The Universal or Parklife, or Girls & Boys or Beetlebum.

As mentioned above, Blur have a whole host of singles that receive regular UK airplay and have done so for a great number of years and Gorillaz are not really comparable at this point.

[Sledge Hammer]

Who are this Gorillaz you speak of?

Blur will be remembered years from now....

[tom_cas1]

DARE and Dirty Harry were huge in the UK upon release, On Melancholy Hill wasn't. Nothing from Plastic Beach was.

[Sledge Hammer]

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[Sledge Hammer]

DARE and Dirty Harry were huge in the UK upon release, On Melancholy Hill wasn't. Nothing from Plastic Beach was.

Dare and Feel Good Inc are the only big singles and all you ever hear repeated on radio, Dirty Harry...got to no 6 and left the charts quickly and isn't well know by non Gorillaz fans at all, you are also going to find that nothing from Humanz will be big either.

[idreamofpikas]

DARE and Dirty Harry were huge in the UK upon release, On Melancholy Hill wasn't. Nothing from Plastic Beach was.

Dare and Feel Good Inc are the only big singles and all you ever hear repeated on radio, Dirty Harry...got to no 6 and left the charts quickly and isn't well know by non Gorillaz fans at all, you are also going to find that nothing from Humanz will be big either.

19-2000 was a huge hit and still gets played on the radio.

The Chart run for Dirty Harry was better than the majority of Blur singles. UK: #6; #10; #15; #16; #20; #24; #25; #29; #44; #54; #59; #58; #57; #48; #65; #66; #71; #73; #78; #61; #85; #94; #104out of top 75

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As you can see, Tender was the last Blur single that had similar success to Dirty Harry, both spending 8 weeks in the top 40 and 4 weeks in the top 20.

It is perfectly reasonable to not like their music but do you not think it is a bit pointless pretending that they were not successful? What exactly does that solve, it does not make their music any better or worse than Blur's despite their sales and Damon has rarely chosen his next project due to financial reasons.

Though I agree, it is unlikely anything from this album will be a hit just like nothing was from Everyday Robots and the Magic Whip.

[tom_cas1]

Dirty Harry was definitely big in the UK when it was released.

[Sledge Hammer]

Im not trying to put a downer, I love the old Gorillaz, but Dirty Harry was never big mainstream...never was going to be with the big rap in the middle.

...Gorillaz is not as big in the Uk as Blur, round the world a different story yes.