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Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 07 May 2015, 06:55
by KingLouieLouie76
Mallard No. 22 wrote:
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:I would say it's gone back to after the "Day the Music Died" until the Beatles conquered America..So.. '59-'64 essentially.....
Yes :) I would say it is similar to that period. We await something invigorating, that catches the mainstream unaware.
Who will be the next Beatles? That's what everyone is wondering.. Not like I mean in terms of specifically compared to the Beatles...but the next innovators who will salvage music and have that sustaining impact... will it finally happen in our lifetime? People thought Nirvana did that in the 90s, but we all know the reality now... Oh well....

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 07 May 2015, 20:12
by mr_spenalzo
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:
Mallard No. 22 wrote:
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:I would say it's gone back to after the "Day the Music Died" until the Beatles conquered America..So.. '59-'64 essentially.....
Yes :) I would say it is similar to that period. We await something invigorating, that catches the mainstream unaware.
Who will be the next Beatles? That's what everyone is wondering.. Not like I mean in terms of specifically compared to the Beatles...but the next innovators who will salvage music and have that sustaining impact... will it finally happen in our lifetime? People thought Nirvana did that in the 90s, but we all know the reality now... Oh well....
You mean like Kanye West? :twisted:

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 08 May 2015, 13:17
by KingLouieLouie76
mr_spenalzo wrote:
You mean like Kanye West? :twisted:

Oh lord...I must..resist..wanting..to...post...in...the....Hip-Hop...thread! :lol: I actually love some of the genre, but detest West!

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 08 May 2015, 15:42
by mr_spenalzo
Mallard No. 22 wrote:
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:I would say it's gone back to after the "Day the Music Died" until the Beatles conquered America..So.. '59-'64 essentially.....
Yes :) I would say it is similar to that period. We await something invigorating, that catches the mainstream unaware.
Wasn't there at least some interesting stuff going on in jazz those years? I may be wrong but I thought all those great Ornette Coleman and John Coltrane records came out around that time?

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 08 May 2015, 21:05
by KingLouieLouie76
mr_spenalzo wrote:
Mallard No. 22 wrote:
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:I would say it's gone back to after the "Day the Music Died" until the Beatles conquered America..So.. '59-'64 essentially.....
Yes :) I would say it is similar to that period. We await something invigorating, that catches the mainstream unaware.
Wasn't there at least some interesting stuff going on in jazz those years? I may be wrong but I thought all those great Ornette Coleman and John Coltrane records came out around that time?

Yeah... also Country Western music was also vastly emerging.... I was essentially getting on pure Rock & Roll and neglecting other genres... You nailed it about Jazz (mainly during that time it was Hard Bop Jazz)...Also, the Blues was becoming popular along with the earlier evolution of Folk music....

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 12 May 2015, 06:15
by Mallard No. 22
Emerging separately, blues, folk and country went on to have influence, and became a part of, 60s music after The Beatles explosion.
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:Who will be the next Beatles? That's what everyone is wondering.. Not like I mean in terms of specifically compared to the Beatles...but the next innovators who will salvage music and have that sustaining impact....?
In this vein, is the announcement that 'American Idol' is to end next year significant?

This genre has dominated music (in the USA, UK, everywhere.... :roll: ) for the past fifteen years. And has put the bland into the centre of public consciousness.

:idea: Maybe it is not so much that we await 'a great new artist', but the fact that this generic genre is to go, clears the way for a different scene. And hopefully a more creative one that succeeds on its own organic terms.

Or am I being a dreamer....? :mrgreen:

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 14 May 2015, 08:15
by KingLouieLouie76
Mallard No. 22 wrote:Emerging separately, blues, folk and country went on to have influence, and became a part of, 60s music after The Beatles explosion.
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:Who will be the next Beatles? That's what everyone is wondering.. Not like I mean in terms of specifically compared to the Beatles...but the next innovators who will salvage music and have that sustaining impact....?
In this vein, is the announcement that 'American Idol' is to end next year significant?

This genre has dominated music (in the USA, UK, everywhere.... :roll: ) for the past fifteen years. And has put the bland into the centre of public consciousness.

:idea: Maybe it is not so much that we await 'a great new artist', but the fact that this generic genre is to go, clears the way for a different scene. And hopefully a more creative one that succeeds on its own organic terms.

Or am I being a dreamer....? :mrgreen:

I didn't know about American Idol is ending! Awesome! I believe you are being a dreamer.... I just don't believe any sustaining new genre will evolve..... It seems technology has all about ruined it opposed to being a major boon!

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 16 May 2015, 06:09
by Mallard No. 22
That is what I suspect.

Corporate life will probably dictate it anyway, whatever happens. :x

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 16 May 2015, 16:10
by KingLouieLouie76
Mallard No. 22 wrote:That is what I suspect.

Corporate life will probably dictate it anyway, whatever happens. :x

Agreed...it's been that way for the past 20-years...what's going to suddenly change that? It would have to be some radical extreme musical movement, but unfortunately there are no complete unified fronts anymore for that to ever happen again!

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 18 May 2015, 06:05
by Mallard No. 22
Music has become entwined with other strands of life. It does not exist on its own terms.

Maybe only an unforeseen event that destabilised corporate globalism could totally re-invigorate music to stand on its own?

E.g. 'the Rock Era' (mid 50s - mid 80s) and all that it brought (rock n roll, beat boom, heavy rock, new wave, synth pop etc) was a consequence of the UK (& Europe, USA) emerging from the aftermath of World War Two.

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 19 May 2015, 07:00
by KingLouieLouie76
Mallard No. 22 wrote:Music has become entwined with other strands of life. It does not exist on its own terms.

Maybe only an unforeseen event that destabilised corporate globalism could totally re-invigorate music to stand on its own?

E.g. 'the Rock Era' (mid 50s - mid 80s) and all that it brought (rock n roll, beat boom, heavy rock, new wave, synth pop etc) was a consequence of the UK (& Europe, USA) emerging from the aftermath of World War Two.

I thought 9/11 here in the States could have lead to that w/the Middle Wars...It influenced quite a few bands, but that wasn't completely sustained...

It will have to be something underground that evolves..or perhaps something even more scaled-back, lo-fi....vintage....

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 19 May 2015, 19:01
by Sean
Any fans of latter period Talk Talk / Mark Hollis I'm sure will love the new Lone Wolf album 'Lodge'. It has all of the Hollis hallmarks....very beautiful and sparse. It's a really great record, and he deserves a bigger audience (he is on his arse financially).

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 20 May 2015, 06:10
by KingLouieLouie76
Sean wrote:Any fans of latter period Talk Talk / Mark Hollis I'm sure will love the new Lone Wolf album 'Lodge'. It has all of the Hollis hallmarks....very beautiful and sparse. It's a really great record, and he deserves a bigger audience (he is on his arse financially).

Thanks for the recommendation.... Have you ever listened to Gomez?

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 20 May 2015, 11:36
by Sean
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:
Sean wrote:Any fans of latter period Talk Talk / Mark Hollis I'm sure will love the new Lone Wolf album 'Lodge'. It has all of the Hollis hallmarks....very beautiful and sparse. It's a really great record, and he deserves a bigger audience (he is on his arse financially).

Thanks for the recommendation.... Have you ever listened to Gomez?
Haha :mrgreen: ....er...yeah....Ben Ottewell grew up near me and is mates with some of my friends. I always hated them and in particular his fake voice.

Re: Talk Talk Thread

Posted: 21 May 2015, 07:24
by KingLouieLouie76
Sean wrote:
KingLouieLouie76 wrote:
Sean wrote:Any fans of latter period Talk Talk / Mark Hollis I'm sure will love the new Lone Wolf album 'Lodge'. It has all of the Hollis hallmarks....very beautiful and sparse. It's a really great record, and he deserves a bigger audience (he is on his arse financially).

Thanks for the recommendation.... Have you ever listened to Gomez?
Haha :mrgreen: ....er...yeah....Ben Ottewell grew up near me and is mates with some of my friends. I always hated them and in particular his fake voice.

I actually love his voice, but we're obviously entitled to our own opinion...What is he like as a person?