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Mansun

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 18:53
by TripleJay97
Any fans (other than you, Magpie ;))?

Their first album is one of my favourites of all time, and is vastly underrated in my opinion.

Re: Mansun

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 19:07
by dparrott
Didn't we cover this already?

Re: Mansun

Posted: 23 Oct 2014, 19:46
by TripleJay97
I think they deserve their own thread, surely. They've got four or five albums and people only usually cover the first!

Re: Mansun

Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 01:13
by MrMagpie
We didn't cover this on THIS forum, only on the old one. And hell yes, they deserve their own thread!

Re: Mansun

Posted: 30 Oct 2014, 07:58
by Mallard No. 22
Yes, I bought 'Attack of the Grey Lantern' at the time.

They had good singles but were under-rated in the wider scheme of things.

Re: Mansun

Posted: 30 Oct 2014, 12:21
by TripleJay97
They were certainly better than some of the other Britpop bands that got wide exposure, such as Oasis and Echobelly.

Re: Mansun

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 21:31
by Mallard No. 22
Interesting point. Difficult to compare them to Oasis, who gained broad mainstream interest beyond their indie roots.

Echobelly are a more obvious comparator. But I'd have to dig out albums I haven't played for nearly 20 years to make a re-assessment. :geek: :)

Re: Mansun

Posted: 01 Nov 2014, 06:29
by mr_spenalzo
I think Echobelly are a bit like Shed Seven and Marion: loved the music in 95, but listen to it now and their stuff hasn't aged well. Mansun, Gene and Kenickie, on the other hand, are still wonderful now..

Of these Gene in particular sound quite fresh to this day.

Re: Mansun

Posted: 02 Nov 2014, 20:58
by MrMagpie
^agreed. One of the frustrating things about Oasis for me is that a) the slide in quality from their first album was so precipitous it isn't even funny, and b) they were as much a creation of media hype and stoking the fires of class & regional differences than anything.

Mansun, on the other hand, had the opposite fate in the media of the time and have only now been betting the critical acclaim and attention they deserve. A shame because unlike Oasis (who I *do* like), there was nothing derivative or unoriginal about them. Paul Draper is, in my view, up there with Damon, Jarvis, and Noel (at least Noel's better work) as one of the top songwriters of the 1990s.

Re: Mansun

Posted: 03 Nov 2014, 07:36
by Mallard No. 22
Oasis (like Shaun Ryder/Bez) caught the interest of the UK tabloid media because they were 'local lads'. They joined the dots between the muso, the student, the working lad and the football fan. This enabled their continued mainstream success after their indie mojo stopped working.

Mansun by contrast came from the 'Blur side' of the indie fence. Being in the second wave of Britpop, perhaps their talents were not fully realised before music trends moved on.

Re: Mansun

Posted: 03 Nov 2014, 22:07
by TripleJay97
^An excellent point. There were some great bands that appeared during wave two, but vanished soon after.

Re: Mansun

Posted: 05 Nov 2014, 07:57
by Mallard No. 22
Did Mansun headline a tour during the Britpop period?

My (now vague) memory is that they tended to support others, even when they themselves began to have big hits.

Re: Mansun

Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 07:53
by Mallard No. 22
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At this Sleeper gig, I noted on the ticket that Mansun were supporting.

This was the same day that 'Wide Open Space' entered the UK singles chart.

Re: Mansun

Posted: 10 Nov 2014, 02:57
by MrMagpie
Awesome! Could I used that in my forthcoming book? (The ticket scan that is. I'd give you credit in the book for it, of course).

Re: Mansun

Posted: 10 Nov 2014, 04:49
by dparrott
I think Six basically killed their pop career. It was so left field the pop crowd were done with them. Then when they tried to get them back with LK it was too late. If LK was the second album, it would have done well.