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The Led Zeppelin Thread

Post by KingLouieLouie76 » 20 Sep 2014, 21:18

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Post by tom_cas1 » 20 Sep 2014, 22:01

I'm a fan and even though I do like them, I've always thought they're overrated. Especially Jimmy Page. Good guitarist but not a great one you can put alongside the likes of Clapton, Hendrix, Allman etc. Plus the amount of stuff he pinched from other artists is astounding. There's no talent in that.
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Post by KingLouieLouie76 » 20 Sep 2014, 23:35

tom_cas1 wrote:I'm a fan and even though I do like them, I've always thought they're overrated. Especially Jimmy Page. Good guitarist but not a great one you can put alongside the likes of Clapton, Hendrix, Allman etc. Plus the amount of stuff he pinched from other artists is astounding. There's no talent in that.

I honestly agree w/your sentiments....But for me they've always been a huge fave of mine because their songs have such an immense impact on me...But yes, they blatantly copied several (especially during the first three albums)..... I do love "Houses of the Holy" quite a bit more than anything and loved their later direction!
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Post by saltandgin » 23 Sep 2014, 01:09

Then nicked a lot blues and other music true, but what people forget is that nearly EVERYONE was doing it in folk/blues circles.Just because Willie Dixon or Bob Dylan owned the rights to a certain song, doesn't mean they wrote that melody..They merely had the brains to legally get the rights. Up until recently, Dylan was getting no bad-press about 'borrowing' more than a few melodies from older sources..Yet Zeppelin still get hounded for it.

At the end of the day, Zepplin may of stolen wood from your shed, but they built a fucking cathedral with it.
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Post by tom_cas1 » 23 Sep 2014, 02:18

There's borrowing a few simple melodies and then completely stealing a certain guitar riff. Stairway To Heaven is a good example of that, the intro anyway. Completely copied from another band at the end, one that I believe supported Led Zeppelin on a tour once.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan. But I think they're overrated when other bands like Cream, The Allman Brothers Band and Derek and the Dominos should get more of a look in.
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Post by KingLouieLouie76 » 23 Sep 2014, 07:16

I dug-up an earlier links on a post of mine from the not too distant past, but a rather since distant place:

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Post by saltandgin » 23 Sep 2014, 20:10

Yeah, Led Zepplin nicked stuff..but what changes it for me is that they took the bare bones, and made a completely different life-form from it.
And I heard the song that Zepplin 'stole' for stairway to heaven, and all I heard was a generic minor chord descending melody. It sounded a bit like stairway..but even if they did deliberately nick it, they made such an amazing song with it.

If Zepplin were crap and stole music, I'd hate them. But they stole some basic melodies and words, and made fucking worlds with them. They would take an old folk melody, and turn it into a funk/hard rock/indian/blues song. You would literally have a new song.


Anyway,Zeppelin are only slightly (just my smelly opinion) let's remember that the music press and the music 'purists' (i.e Snobs) HATED THEM for years. It's only in the last 20 years that people have properly appreciated them.

But morally, they should of been more honest. But then again, so should of Dylan...who nicked ENTIRE melody's as well.
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Post by MrMagpie » 24 Sep 2014, 00:02

Page is absolutely on the same level as Clapton, Hendrix, etc. That's not even a question. The breadth of styles he can play and his compositional skills (when he wasn't nicking stuff in the early years) is stunning, never mind his production skills. He did lose the plot after '73 when he got too addicted to smack, but in his prime of '69-'72 the dude was as good as ANYONE, live or in the studio.
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Post by saltandgin » 24 Sep 2014, 00:45

I agree, he wasn't some super-clean and precise robot, like some poodle-haired guitarist I can think of. He could shred when he needed to, but his sheer range of styles was amazing. Oh, and he wrote and produced a majority of the music for Zepplin..Eddie Van Halen might been able to play faster, but I doubt he could do all that.
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Post by tom_cas1 » 24 Sep 2014, 02:05

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Clapton, Hendrix and Allman are on another level completely. But it's all personal opinion, we could argue about this until the cows come home.
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Post by MrMagpie » 24 Feb 2015, 16:39

Jimmy Page by Jimmy Page...his first autobiography (albeit in photos). Still, a great book!

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Post by KingLouieLouie76 » 17 Jun 2016, 15:16

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Post by Mallard No. 22 » 22 Jun 2016, 04:55

Difficult one this, and a bit tedious really. The songs do have similarities, but at the time there was a general folk-rock vibe going on. Various acts could influence one another.

You can find other similarities in the same period - Humble Pie 'Natural Born Bugie' sounds like The Beatles 'Revolution'. And this was before The Sweet's 'Blockbuster' took its hook riff from Bowie's 'The Jean Genie'
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Post by guidedbyvoices » 22 Jun 2016, 16:17

They have never been good.

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Post by guidedbyvoices » 22 Jun 2016, 16:17

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